[–]Chinoiserie91 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children). Details File Size: 4615KB Duration: 2.267 sec Dimensions: 498x373 Created: 10/27/2020, 8:53:35 PM Act 3 was somewhat disappointing for obvious reasons, but for the most part typical superhero stuff with the obligatory final battle, which I don't care much about (in general, the vast majority of action sequences I don't mind, but they don't do much for me either, not my cup of tea anymore). I for one, was a 90's kid, and I grew up loving comic books and I was lucky to have batman movies (Val Kilmer, George Clooney, and Michael Keaton) as well as TMNT, Captain America, Zorro, The Phantom, and others to fill my love of superheros. Pt. Again, suspension of disbelief has already gotten you that far into the movie. Ares Season 1 is a respectable eight chapters long, with the drama evolving from the first episode. The greatest accomplishment of Wonder Woman was proving that women can make and star in superhero movies that are just as mediocre as men's ones. [–]beeswaxx 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (7 children). [–]TelFyr 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children), Hmmm ... in what ways? Your first point isn’t actually answering the question, you’re just describing the characters. The way I see it, the movie is casting Ares as a sort of Devil figure. If I would happen on an island with a medieval/ancient, all-female warrior tribe, it would be a head-scratcher for me. There is a difference between the two. Clearly it's just for modern American audiences, but in my opinion, it looks so much like the makeup of our time that I found it jarring, almost as much as watching, say, Star Trek from the 60s and seeing the big hair and other fashion from that time. They don't know any better. popular-all-random-users | AskReddit-news-funny-gaming-pics-videos-todayilearned-aww-worldnews-mildlyinteresting-tifu-gifs-IAmA-Jokes-movies-Showerthoughts-explainlikeimfive-science-TwoXChromosomes-nottheonion-space-EarthPorn … [–]ncolaros 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (1 child). Tag : Patty Jenkins. Of course that also lost some weight when both sides were hugging each other after Ares “dies” at the end. There's so much fantastic work in this medium. It's not as good as Krzysztof Kieślowski's Trois couleurs: Rogue is it? [–]gotb89 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children). [–]PertKelly 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (3 children), [–]Y3808 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children). [–]Taravangian 42 points43 points44 points 3 years ago (3 children). You know that Wonder Woman motion picture? That ending was extremely uninspired. "What's up dude?" An Amsterdam student joins a secret society that has been around since the Dutch Golden Age, but must decide how far she is willing to go to rise up the ranks. This was a BAD ASS movie.. The ones who played Ares are Not Yet Appeared. I feel like there sort of has to be a big bad in a Wonder Woman movie though. The factors being such as her having no social awareness and the fact that you disliked the part that she believed that Ares was at fault for everything. Recently I've watched "Hail, Caesar!" But as it stands, I think the movie did what it needed to do: show Wonder Woman's origin story. But you wouldn’t bring up the latest avengers movie if you were at a cocktail themed on the discussion of film. For example, everyone loves Spirited Away, even though Chihiro comes across as shouty and frankly obnoxious. Wonder Woman is basically The Little Mermaid with Killing Nazis. Threads must promote in-depth discussion. I'm going to see you as immature and close minded. God of War is a third person action-adventure video game developed by Santa Monica Studio and published by Sony Interactive Entertainment. I hated Chris Pine's "heroic ending" because it was just the end of Captain America. Storm Collectibles is back with the latest addition to its Injustice: Gods Among Us line, and this time it’s Ares. [–]theophrastzunz 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child). Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. I guess her punching this guy is her recognizing that people can be evil? I can only speak for Netflix but I've been very impressed by some of their original series' and it's phenomenally more convenient and comfortable than watching things on TV. Discover and Share the best GIFs on Tenor. Patty Jenkins had a lot more creative control over Wonder Woman 1984, as evidenced by the fact that she co-wrote the screenplay alongside Geoff Johns and … I really enjoy League of Extraordinary Gentleman but I feel comfortable admitting that it’s a bad movie. It's hard to say because at the end of the film, they suddenly just become a team, even though everything leading up to that moment was about how they're explicitly not a team. The cinematography is ok, music is ok. Ares was born millennia ago to Zeus, King of the Old Gods, as one of the latter's many godly children. I don't know why someone would completely close themselves off from enjoying as much of it as possible. Fails. Halle Barry Catwoman? I chose these two movies because they both attempt to do the same thing: a big, dumb action blockbuster about a team of super heros, facing an alien threat. I did like Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman and loved the colorful look of the opening scene (wish we had gotten much more of that! And guess what. The amazonians look weak af. The impression I got from Suicide Squad is that they had a full movie, and then they threw the reel in a blender and stitched it back together later; it doesn't really make sense as a script, and as a result, the rest of the movie truly suffers. I hated Chris Pine's "heroic ending." [–]free_will_is_arson 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children). Here You Going To Find A List With The Best Movies And Tv Shows Streaming Sites Free No Account … Press J to jump to the feed. Making action scenes boring because the lead was so irresponsible that she became visibly pregnant while filming isn’t supporting women’s rights. That would’ve been a great idea. Review this for what it is and for what it intended to be, not for anything else to make you look smart. Hot New Top Rising. [–]MikeArrow 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children). Like someone said above, i usually don't over dissect a movie like this and am happy to enjoy it despite flaws, but in WW's case I was bothered to the point that I didn't enjoy watching it. Much like the TV world has succumbed to Netflix, HBO, Hulu, and Amazon video, I foresee the corporate movie studios following the same toilet bowl swirl. I don't know, and frankly I don't care. [–]OddFeature 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children). (Info / Contact), [–]PoopIsAlwaysSunny 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (1 child). So did I. Jay smirks, shifting one of his shoulders that currently holds the bronze automaton. [–]phenix714 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children). A bigger war is coming historically, so if Ares is the reason behind human conflict on that scale, and WW has taken him down...what’s up with World War II? [–]Mithridates12 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children). 3) Peruvian cinema: I have at least three Peruvian films in my queue to watch. Moderators. Honestly I hate seeing superhero movies discussed here. Aside the point, one thing I had a confusion over was Ares killing Zeus? Apparently with your fists. There performances wern't great. If you dismiss all blockbusters or superhero films as "generic trash" without "artistic merit", then I'm not going to look at you like an informed cinephile. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Just last week the a guy on the Movie Maintenance podcast pitched an alternative script where one of the changes was making Steve Trevor a German instead, and Diana slowly realised that the allies weren't pure evil. So she fights to make a better world. They are all women, and there are no men. Well hopefully they've scratched the itch of pushing out empowerment porn and can make the second film more compelling. Yeah, obviously, yet we as a society clearly set some standards for things that, in normal circumstances, transcend this subjectivity. I wasn’t really familiar with anyone in the Ares cast except for maybe a small role in a movie or TV series that I can’t even remember clearly. The scripts were terrible at times. So the mistreatment of a soldier with PTSD is pretty appropriate for the setting of the movie. It still gives many a great feeling and is still a strong female superhero figure. I was very let down. If the physical form of Ares is just congealed evil, then her physical being is just a carrier for the bane. There's a lot I disagree with Armond White about, haha, [–]utopista114 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children). [–]lordDEMAXUS 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (4 children). Ares in Wonder Woman was a bit of a cliche villain. Season 1. "Yup." ), but treating this film as something special in the DCEU just doesn’t really make that much sense to me. I didn't have issue with the opening scene, but after that, I thought everything pretty much flew downhill from there. What was particularly annoying was all the bullet time/slow mo stuff that happened at the beginning. [–]TotesMessenger 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago* (0 children). I always find it hilarious when people in /r/TrueFilm critique Hollywood blockbusters like WW (or any other Marvel or DC movie for that matter) as if the sheer resounding popularity of the movie had anything to do with quality of the script, acting, historical accuracy, or whatever. I thought that was a silly oversight by the director. I forgot to mention, the accents of the female leads at the beginning were just silly and awful. Wonder Woman , as a whole, is a massive success story. It is a generic film that was written and rewritten by a string of writers, and optimized by marketers and watered down until there was no substance, and no artistic vision, left. Rising. On /r/TrueFilm there's at least the chance of a thoughtful and respectful discussion, even if people don't agree with OP. Even in the superhero genre i can find plenty of artistic merit, score/cinematography/performances... it is there. [–]horsefeathers743 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children). [–]Mithridates12 66 points67 points68 points 3 years ago (1 child). Ares is ready to take on the gauntlet of heroes and villains with his … Chris pine is the only one that uplifts the movie. We have an isolated island, a protective mother, our typical hero in Diana who is the key to everything, a training sequence and then an outside influence prompting her to go on her quest. A few weeks ago it was Blade Runner 2049. But I loved them. [–]bhindblueyes430 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child). [–]HaveAWillieNiceDay 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children). I was hoping her disillusionment would come sooner in the film and her journey would have been to find a way to reconcile the two conflicting belief systems to ultimately build a more logical argument to stand for love/human potential. I heavily believe that it enhanced the film due to her false hope that Ares was at fault for everything the ending with Steve telling him that it's humanity itself which is at fault was a very well done sequence (even though it could be handled better + the ending). I was so disappointed. Maybe it’s just human nature to fight each other, but Diana knows there’s good in the world because of people like Steve and his group. And the objective contrast between them is a good example of objectivity in art: Avengers is a tight, functional, and effective script about the importance of teamwork. Bhi is terrible. I get that it was played for comedic effect and sometimes it worked but I felt it overshadowed what was at the heart of her character just a little too much, That was probably my favorite piece of dialogue but I can't help but think it should have happened sooner so that there would have been more time for Diana (and the audience) to digest it (instead of starting a fistfight with Ares 30 seconds later). She needed to tell Chris Pine to shut up when he does his funny improv stuff, and she was unable to give Diana or the villains any discernable personality traits. It would have been acceptable had the movie been overall better, but really it was all just a misogynist, misandrist attempt at creating a feminist phenomenon. Completely prevented me from getting involved in the movie initally. [–]lordDEMAXUS 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children). That German general guy would probably have been a much better Ares than Ares (and was way more interesting anyways in his brief interaction with Diana than the actual Ares). What are the themes of the movie? And don't get me started on their shaved legs and armpits. OP here is battling a straw(wo)man: the critical reception to WW indicated that it was "very good", not "great". So Diana tries to appeal to his emotions- "But there are women and children in there!". "Ok, instead of just blowing up that factory, let's let them load it up on to that plane so I can then hijack it and blow it up mid-air with me inside." So why did Ares deserve to die for encouraging war, but Poison was shown mercy despite her intentionally contributing to mass murder of civilians? The recruitment scene in the bar was absolutely sleep-inducing and I wished they would have cut them out altogether to spend more time on things that really matter like the opening or the trenches. he asked playfully. After reading some reviews I do agree that some of that moment was salvaged by Ares saying that he merely whispered in their ears, but they were capable of evil by themselves. Posted by 8 months … They pretty much determine what kind of movie you're making. Man I've been saying this from day 1. [–]LoneKharnivore 18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–]soundbunny 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children). I actually agreed with James Cameron's criticism of the movie. But we also have The Dark Knight trilogy (at least the first two) or the Raimi Spider-Man films or like you said Logan. He’s saying that the superhero films don’t. But what makes a film 'good' is entirely subjective. Patty Jenkins had a lot more creative control over Wonder Woman 1984, as evidenced by the fact that she co-wrote the screenplay alongside Geoff Johns and Dave Callaham. I have friends insisting that they saw it 6 times and cried every time. [–]TVDL[S] 22 points23 points24 points 3 years ago (1 child), I haven't read any comic books (I'm not an American, comic book culture isn't really present where I live) so these films are my first introductions to these characters. I'm very impressed with these thoughtful criticisms. This subreddit is dedicated to Plus, as a superhero film, it really lacked good action. And not Nazi Germany. JOIN NOW. Ares, unfortunately, has a stronger grasp on metaphor and style than on character and plot. As he puts the finishing touches to his Roald Dahl adaptation The Witches, Robert Zemeckis has signed on for a return to the sci-fi genre, with … Comment. More details have been shared about the Wonder Woman 1984 release including international plans and how long it will be on HBO Max. [–]newtothelyte 18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (4 children). She tries to subdue him with the lasso. the scene where they flashback in time to see the antagonist when he was younger, he’s this buff guy with the same old man face and mustache. Finally having a real female superhero is great and I'm happy the film did well financially which finally proves that the audience doesn't always need a white male hero and will hopefully mean we'll get more diversified heroes in the future. Im guessing you would say Batman Begins and the Dark Knight? As a D.C. Movie or a big blockbuster in general, I appreciate it's better than most but it doesn't deserve the hype as some new bible of feminism/how to do a good job with women-led storylines. Wonder Woman: 10 Characters Currently In The DCEU That Could Form The Justice League Dark From Wonder Woman to Deathstroke, these already established DCEU characters could easily make up … Why not go for a little more realism? I thought he meant a bigger war in context of the movie. to be fair, i was high while watching it but seemed like a good portion of the movie was wonder woman breathing and staring seriously. In a movie like the first Captain America, they had Red Skull but he was just in charge of an offshoot of the Nazi's science division. Sit down and watch a film like Transformers 5, and you'll see that basic components of a story (like logical event progression, or character motivation) are just not present. 2020 TV-MA 1 Season Dutch TV Shows. ( when associated to comics obviously, because women are wonderful and no one disputes that) Still good effort OP. I also found Robin Wright's acting to be pretty bad too. To be fair, there are way more ants than black people in America. [–]nabster100 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children). but have some self awareness at least to recognize that enjoying a film doesn't make it good. I would’ve loved if there just wasn’t any Ares. Wonder Woman's felt like it could've been out of a TV show like Xena with better production quality. Email. Ares comes out of self imposed exile because he is drawn to Diana’s power. I don´t like his ideology, but I like his humanism, and he is trying to elevate film. He never said that ALL blockbusters have no artistic merit, he's saying that it's the kind that doesn't. If Ares was more or less responsible for WW1, why do we not have a long period of peace following it? Am I right? * Only YouTube videos! All these are valid criticisms. See, the reason is because no one is pouring $200,000,000 into an arthouse film that appeals to 0.1% of the population. Log In Sign Up. I find nothing interesting in watching literal gods smashing each other to see which one can hit harder, it gets very boring very quickly. But I think that as much as being about gender, the film's about imperialism, which it handles poorly. I don’t think he’s saying blockbusters can’t have artistic merit. Did you actually see the film so you could turn that critical or trained eye on it, or are you just talking about things you know nothing about? It also felt like the film didn't really know what to do with its ending; the war was over, but we all know a second one is coming, how does that fit into Wonder Woman killing Ares? Ares becomes a literal dude for Diana to punch. Sure, it’s unexpected but it’s goofy that they chose that old guy with a mustache to play the villain. [–]BrckT0p 97 points98 points99 points 3 years ago* (12 children). I actually got swayed into seeing it in the theaters because everybody was fawning over it. While I agree with you, it's still a superhero movie, which most of the general audience watch for the fist-pummeling. It just makes no sense at all. With Jade Olieberg, Tobias Kersloot, Lisa Smit, Frieda Barnhard. She is the secondary antagonist and one of the primary opponents in John Wick: Chapter 2. Wonder Woman 1984 Has a Blink-and-Miss-It Cameo from the Original Movie While Steve's comeback in WW 1984 does mark the return of Diana's past, there is … This movie was easily better than MoS, BvS, Suicide Squad, and if the critics are to be trusted Justice League is also rubbish. On the bright side, there are some great foreign/independent films being made without corporate studio blessing. Giganta has had some interesting, comic-book origins and restructures over the years but what's stuck out is her character. I didn't read what he said properly. I think this shows the message of love killing evil better but test audiences didn't like that so it had to be changed into a normal CGI fest battle where Ares looks more "badass" and less like a God. [–]PertKelly 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (6 children), [–]Detention13 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children). [–]lordDEMAXUS 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child). 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