They aren’t doing a study, they’re administering testing at an owner’s request. I adopt out dogs to some trainers that train service animals. https://reddit.com/r/PitbullsAreDangerous/, https://reddit.com/r/pitbulls_in_partyhats/. The wave of argument against the pit bull ban in Montreal, and other breed-specific legislation around the country, emphasises that pit bulls can't … If a bitch has 8 pups, 6 may not have the proper temperament for fighting. Pit bulls are the dog of choice amongst dogmen, individuals who fight their pit bulls against other pit bulls. They are certainly dangerous. Pit bulls contributed to 66% (311) of these deaths. (See Merritt Clifton, 'Pit Bull Roulette' killed 38,000 other animals in 2017.) That doesn’t change anything. If those same shitty owners raised golden retrievers the same way, then golden retrievers would be doing that shit. In 2017, pit bulls killed 13,000 dogs, 5,000 cats and 20,000 horses and other farm animals. An opinion. [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 2 years ago (0 children). A pitbull did a good deed. A dog’s breed doesn’t define a dog’s personality. [–]scoonbug -2 points-1 points0 points 2 years ago (0 children). And some are, not all, [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (5 children). I’m guessing you’re just retarded and uninformed lol. [–]ilikemath2 -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (8 children), Wouldn’t you also have learned that another breeds of dog can be just as violent and the pit bull is the type of dog and not the breed, [–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago* (7 children). Pit bulls–exclusive of their use in dogfighting–also inflict more than 70 times as many fatal and disfiguring injuries on other pets and livestock as on humans, a pattern unique to the pit bull class. Because many of the are forced out of homes by nasty neighbors or home owners insurance. I agree. Here is a statement by a surgeon who routinely literally puts childrens' faces back together. The pit bull type is particularly ambiguous as a "breed" encompassing a range of pedigree breeds, informal types and appearances that cannot be reliably identified. 2 years ago. As a matter of fact, the Pit Bull is not a single dog breed.Rather, they’re a collection of four breeds and direct relatives to those pedigree breeds.. That being said, there are four types of Pit Bulls: the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier and the American Bulldog. I’m sorry. Surveys of dogs offered for sale or adoption indicate that pit bulls and pit mixes are together less than 7% of the U.S. dog population; molosser breeds, all combined, are 9%.”. There is simply no legitimate case of these dogs being bred to be good around children. But they have relationships with shelters (like mine) so they can get them adopted back out as companion animals. Yes, they are dangerous dogs who can bite people to death and disfigure children. While walking my dogs in public parks or neighborhoods, I’ve seen people immediately cross the street, scream, tell their children to run and one woman even hit Julio with a walking stick. The AVMA also takes the position that bite risk is more strongly influenced by other factors than breed, https://www.avma.org/KB/Resources/LiteratureReviews/Pages/The-Role-of-Breed-in-Dog-Bite-Risk-and-Prevention.aspx. [–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (7 children). The test standards are also fairly subjective. Yes, as would the AKC and the scientists who run temperament tests and consistently find that pit bulls are naturally one of the least aggressive breeds. So it’s not the dog...it’s the owner. It's shitty owners that make them shitty. Iamverysmart is for morons who think they are smart haha. Even though they’re adopting adult dogs (so they’re more predictable in terms of work ethic and temperament) they wash out a bunch. Dog's are a reflection of their ownes. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Forget all of your misconceptions about pit bulls. I've learned that there is no way to change someone's opinions, especially if they have their heart wrapped around an idea. Insert any breed of dog into your 2 scenarios. Combined, pit bulls and rottweilers contributed to 76% of the total recorded deaths. Just google "pit bull temperament test" and see hundreds of links confirming this. [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago* (11 children). [–]urtrashandwrongHates the internet 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (3 children). Pit bulls make up about 6.5 percent of the total U.S. dog population. Don't blame the poor dog for existing, blame shitty people for abusing them. I'm just going to let our conversation sit here. Imagine if all retriever breeds were lumped together instead of there being a clear division between Golden’s, Labradors, Flat Coated, etc. It has layers. [–]RandomePerson 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children). To some, these dogs are considered dangerous killers who should be banned outright, whereas others view them as misunderstood victims of breed discrimination.. Please note that while these anti-pit bull articles always cite stats that seem to single out the “breed” pit bull (American Pit bull Terrier) almost never do the studies themselves use the term as a breed and usually refer to “pit bull type dogs”. It is true that pits score high on the ATTS. Like puppies, bunnies, babies, and so on... You have to be the alpha and set the lead, train them, give attention, and positive reinforcement. This should just be in the sidebar since people most misinformed anti-pitbull posts here almost every day. A subjective statement about your position on some topic. In fact, by all the statistics we have, pit bull dogs are some of the worst dogs you can have around small children. I love pitbulls but the “nanny dog” thing is so much fabricated bullshit. This doesn’t confirm anything. During the 13-year period of 2005 to 2017, canines killed 433 Americans. Pit bulls should not be handled by weak people. Before we continue, we must first clarify what the “pit bull breed” is. I know a lot of people with pits or pit mixes and they are great, even around their kid's. The point is that a minority of a given litter of puppies display the proper drive to use as fighting dogs. The handler’s 2 foot arm and the 6′ lead is added in for a total of 18 feet. The "nanny dog" myth is just that--a myth. “Pit bulls are just dogs and if they are not raised properly and socialized and treated right, they can have behavior problems. [–]BrianDynasty -4 points-3 points-2 points 2 years ago (4 children). I've been noticing over the last little while that Reddit has a pit bull problem. That’s simply not true. So, I would like to hear your points. Be specific as to where you believe your opinion is unpopular. Showering at night is way better than showering in the morning. When these studies lump multiple breeds under one heading (pit bull type) they tend to skew the figures pretty dramatically. Case closed. Normal pit bulls dont kill babies at the sound of a door-knock, [–]AmericanAnarchy -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 years ago (0 children). Some media claims about pit bulls … Even if “pit bulls” have the highest fatality rate...that doesn’t change the argument that this opinion of them being too dangerous to be around children is just made out of uninformed fear. [–]Synthtastic[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children), I hope it stays that way and that there is no victim if one day they snap, [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (9 children), This is a popular opinion, caused by propaganda created by stupid people. /r/dogs is a discussion-based subreddit, meant for asking questions, sharing information, and learning about our beloved canine companions and related dog-centric topics. Depending on your definition that could include anywhere from 1 to 10 different actual “breeds”. Username checks the fuxk out. Find more subreddits like r/PitbullsAreDangerous -- A subreddit for discussing the inherent dangers of pit bulls, exposing the pro-pit propaganda lobby, and debunking lies about the supposed "nanny dog". If you raise them with pain and violence, they will view all humans as threats and lash out. Also, you can read the statements of another pediatric surgeon in regards to the unusually violent nature of pit attacks on children. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. If what you say is true, that all pits are aggressive by breeding, how does one explain the culled dogs? ReddIt “Aggressive breed,” a dangerous misnomer, has caused unnecessary deaths for pit bulls all over the nation. People attacked by any medium size, short coated dog almost invariably label it as a pit bull, whether that’s true or not. In the newly released book, Pit Bull: The Battle Over an American Icon, author Bronwen Dickey … These posts are usually, but not exclusively, those that target a particular sex, race, sexual orientation, etc, when the user in question is hostile, vulgar or aggressive towards said group. Most recently the violations have included threats of violence against police and public officials. And often are a lump of different dogs. This is because of a long history of dog fighting and fake news. The term \"pit bull\" is often used as a blanket term for dogs that resemble the American Pit Bull Terrier or the American Staffordshire Terrier. Please try posting after your account is over 48 hours old. [–]GreyBoyBlackDog 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (10 children). ( except for maybe chihuahuas), [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago* (13 children). In addition, the dog is allowed to repeat the test an unlimited number of times before "passing". Saying "Don't Listen to the Haters" or "Don't change for anyone" is very closed-minded. There are a lot of chihuahaus as well. Rule 3: Do not post opinions that are heavily posted/have been on the front page recently. This is a measure to counteract spam. Try it out lol. Easy, you’re wrong. Mildly. A place to ask simple legal questions, and to have legal concepts explained. Unpopularity is a bit like an onion. However, in less than a year, their pilot program fully broke down due to problems with the pit bull breed. You can’t confirm shit. A subreddit for discussing the inherent dangers of pit bulls, exposing the pro-pit propaganda lobby, and debunking lies about the supposed "nanny dog". Pits and their mixes comprise ~2/3 of human fatalities in any given year, and more than half of all serious human injuries from dog attacks. https://www.adoptapet.com/blog/for-over-100-years-pitbulls-were-our-babysitters/, [–]GreyBoyBlackDog 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (0 children). Welcome to r/Funny: reddit's largest humour depository, Funny, animated GIFs: Your favorite computer file type! I'd rather take a six hour train than a one hour flight. /r/entitledparents is a place you can put all those wonderful stories of moms or dads thinking that because they have kids they are entitled to everything. Some states and cities have acted on the research: The state of Maryland has determined that pit bulls are \"inherently dangerous\" and all owners are liable for any injuries they cause, according to the Baltimore Sun.Even the U.S. Army has acknowledged that pit bulls are high-risk dogs; they are therefore prohibited in some military housing units.Pit bulls join several other breeds on the list of dogs that are recognized as more likely to attack … Pit bulls were selectively bred for "gameness," the ability to finish a fight. You’re a fucking moron. It also doesn’t take into account t that the average person thinks a pit bull is a real breed and can’t tell what dogs are and are not in that breed lol. [–]ilikemath2 -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (12 children), [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (11 children), [–]ilikemath2 -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (10 children), [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (9 children). REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 28204 on r2-app-01d298756a9da77a1 at 2021-01-11 03:22:46.804732+00:00 running d8cca48 country code: US. Your post must be an opinion. Stuff that interests you. [+]FloridianFlamingo comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 2 years ago (2 children). This subreddit is intended for posting your own personal tattoos, but also includes: tattoo flash and tattoo paintings from approved submitters. [+][deleted] comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 2 years ago (7 children). A schutzhund trained dog lunging at the stranger is allowed, but if an untrained Siberian husky does the same, it may fail." https://nationalpost.com/opinion/barbara-kay-theres-no-argument-pit-bulls-kill, Here is a statement by a surgeon who routinely literally puts childrens' faces back together, unusually violent nature of pit attacks on children. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. If you have a meta opinion, put it in the megathread. [–]GreyBoyBlackDog 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (12 children). We enjoy the memes, but please keep them off the sub. Many countries ban pit bulls as a dangerous breed but “there’s no science that bears that idea out,” says this author. Not a showerthought. 8 Minute Read. Not a rant. If you raise them right around your kids, then they will protect your kids. Myth #1: Pit Bulls have the strongest bite of any dog breed. Those numbers would likely be far higher than those attributed to “pit bulls”. Buh bye, [–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 years ago (1 child), Literally all you had to do was google “most dog bites”, [–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (0 children), https://dogbitelaw.com/dog-bite-statistics/all-dog-bite-statistics, [–]VerzocktExpert 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children), [–]GreyBoyBlackDog 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago* (0 children). It's a breed. -source is me training dogs for a while and having more problems with poodles, jack Russell’s, and boarder collies. As a visitor or member, you can help moderators maintain the community by reporting and downvoting rule-breaking content.". Social networks are not stealing our privacy, we're choosing to give it away. So people who know how to be with pitbulls should have them, [–]urtrashandwrongHates the internet 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (1 child). In other words, even displaying aggression isn't necessarily a disqualifier. When a post/comment is removed or deleted, you should still have the option to read it, Saying “I believe in science” doesn’t make your opinion more valid or intelligent than another person. “Every dog is an individual,” Gorant says. The pit bulls "sensitivity" puts them at risk of becoming "unbalanced by constantly reflecting the symptoms of their handler's PTSD," they determined. Stories about spoiled children with their entitled parent(s) are also welcome. I've been noticing over the last little while that Reddit has a pit bull problem. Pit Bulls were bred to fight and be agressive, and what do you know, they do a pretty good job, [–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Lol what? Most of the stigma around pit bulls stems from their association with minorities and poor people. Pit Bulls: Separating The Myths From The Facts. You are retarded. However, using this test to gauge an animal's tendency towards sudden and unprovoked attacks is useless. I will never understand people who want to be wrong on purpose. Remember, there was also a trend of children being posed with fairies and other fantastical creatures as well. Some breads and personality mixes may be harder to train, so if you're a soy boy get a chihuahua. If that were true, they would have entire litters of Uber aggressive fighting dogs time after time without much variation. How they define a 'threat' is your responsibility. [–]GreyBoyBlackDog 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children), [–]Calac64 -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 years ago (2 children). The owner’s handling of a dog defines its personality. Some opinions are so inappropriate/offensive that they'll be removed as hate posts. Support for these laws is based on the misconception that pit bulls are more dangerous and prone to aggression than other dog breeds. Pit bull victims are attacked by trusted family pets or pit bulls that escaped their property or strayed. If you want me to DM you for the price of an item you’re selling, I’m not going to bother with you, even if I want it. But thats with pits, german shepherds, boxers or any breed. The pit bull parents I spoke to had nothing but love and good things to say about their furry friends – not a single account of viciousness. [–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 2 years ago (6 children), [–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 2 years ago (5 children). But no one says that these dogs are dangerous to humans, so why do they think differently about pit bulls? Pit bulls are dangerous and should never be around children. this is for rare puppers, sometimes other animols are allowed if they're cute :). Chomp didn't mean to bite my daughter's face off... She sneezed in his direction and it spooked him. Of the 3,532 people who were disfigured, 2,571 (73%) were disfigured by pit bulls; 3,050 (87%) were disfigured by molosser breeds. A lot of people treat dog's as humans and they are pack animals. (PIT BULLS/BREED DISCRIMINATION) There’s no doubting the contentious divide in perceptions of pit bulls across the globe. People who will spend the rest of their lives unable to walk properly due to having their calf muscles ripped out, or who will requires years of reconstructive surgery after a pit attack aren't counted among the fatalities. Your one stop sub for doggos, woofers, shoobs, puggos, cool doggos, sleepy doggos, lomg doggos, very fast doggos running at incredible hihg speeds, also puppers. and join one of thousands of communities. Rendered by PID 28204 on r2-app-01d298756a9da77a1 at 2021-01-11 03:22:46.804732+00:00 running d8cca48 country code: US. No, this isn't censoring criticism, they're just overposted. [–]Synthtastic[S] 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (1 child). Pictures, videos, articles and questions featuring and about cats. Bad dogs come from bad/irresponsible dog owners. I worked at a shelter and have been trained to understand animal behavior... Also have lots of life experience mate. To answer the question: are pit bulls dangerous? Breeds like Pit Bulls, Boxers, Rottweilers, and Doberman Pinschers are more likely to cause fear and harsh judgment from passersby. Pit Bulls 4 Patriots was launched in 2011 as a specialty group only training rescued pit bulls to help military vets with PTSD. A place for sharing videos, gifs, and images of animals being bros. Aww, cripes. Pit bulls do not attack more often than other dogs. quarantine_message: "It is restricted due to significant issues with reporting and addressing violations of the Reddit [Content Policy](https://www.redditinc.com/policies/content-policy). Just reported. I like getting washouts, they’ve usually already mastered basic obedience which makes them easier to adopt. The officer, who happened to be a Black male, said he believed pit bulls are dangerous dogs not meant for public exposure. 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